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🏛️ Republic · Book X · 611a–614a

Socrates “Then since it is not destroyed by any evil whatever, 611a either its own or alien, it is evident that it must necessarily exist always, and that if it always exists it is immortal.” “Necessarily,” he said.

“Let this, then,” I said, “be assumed to be so. But if it is so, you will observe that these souls must always be the same. For if none perishes they could not, I suppose, become fewer nor yet more numerous.1 For if any class of immortal things increased you are aware that its increase would come from the mortal and all things would end by becoming immortal.2” “You say truly.” “But,” said I, “we must not suppose this, 611b for reason will not suffer it nor yet must we think that in its truest nature the soul is the kind of thing that teems with infinite diversity and unlikeness and contradiction in and with itself.3” “How am I to understand that?” he said. “It is not easy,” said I, “for a thing to be immortal that is composed of many elements4 not put together in the best way, as now appeared to us5 to be the case with the soul.” “It is not likely.” “Well, then, that the soul is immortal our recent argument and our other6 proofs would constrain us to admit. But to know its true nature 611c we must view it not marred by communion with the body7 and other miseries as we now contemplate it, but consider adequately in the light of reason what it is when it is purified, and then you will find it to be a far more beautiful thing and will more clearly distinguish justice and injustice and all the matters that we have now discussed. But though we have stated the truth of its present appearance, its condition as we have now contemplated it 611d resembles that of the sea-god Glaucus8 whose first nature can hardly be made out by those who catch glimpses of him, because the original members of his body are broken off and mutilated and crushed and in every way marred by the waves, and other parts have attached themselves9 to him, accretions of shells10 and sea-weed and rocks, so that he is more like any wild creature than what he was by nature—even such, I say, is our vision of the soul marred by countless evils. But we must look elsewhere, Glaucon.” “Where?” said he. “To its love of wisdom. 611e And we must note the things of which it has apprehensions, and the associations for which it yearns, as being itself akin to the divine11 and the immortal and to eternal being, and so consider what it might be if it followed the gleam unreservedly and were raised by this impulse out of the depths of this sea in which it is now sunk, and were cleansed and scraped free12 of the rocks and barnacles which, 612a because it now feasts on earth, cling to it in wild profusion of earthy and stony accretion by reason of these feastings that are accounted happy.13

“And then one might see whether in its real nature14 it is manifold15 or single in its simplicity, or what is the truth about it and how.16 But for the present we have, I think, fairly well described its sufferings and the forms it assumes in this human life of ours.” “We certainly have,” he said.

“Then,” said I, “we have met all the other demands 612b of the argument, and we have not invoked the rewards and reputes of justice as you said Homer and Hesiod17 do, but we have proved that justice in itself is the best thing for the soul itself, and that the soul ought to do justice whether it possess the ring of Gyges18 or not,19 or the helmet of Hades20 to boot.” “Most true,” he said. “Then,” said I, “Glaucon, there can no longer be any objection,21 can there, to our assigning to justice and 612c virtue generally, in addition, all the various rewards and wages that they bring to the soul from men and gods, both while the man still lives and, after his death?” “There certainly can be none,” he said. “Will you, then, return to me what you borrowed22 in the argument?” “What, pray?” “I granted to you that the just man should seem and be thought to be unjust and the unjust just; for you thought that, even if the concealment of these things from gods and men was an impossibility in fact, nevertheless, it ought to be conceded for the sake of the argument,23 in order that the decision might be made 612d between absolute justice and absolute injustice. Or do you not remember?” “It would be unjust of me,24” he said, “if I did not.” “Well, then, now that they have been compared and judged, I demand back from you in behalf of justice the repute that she in fact enjoys25 from gods and men, and I ask that we admit that she is thus esteemed in order that she may gather in the prizes26 which she wins from the seeming and bestows on her possessors, since she has been proved to bestow the blessings that come from the reality and not to deceive those who truly seek and win her.” “That is a just demand,” he said. 612e “Then,” said I, “will not the first of these restorations be that the gods certainly27 are not unaware28 of the true character of each of the two, the just and the unjust?” “We will restore that,” he said. “And if they are not concealed, the one will be dear to the gods29 and the other hateful to them, as we agreed in the beginning.30” “That is so.”

“And shall we not agree that all things that come from the gods 613a work together for the best31 for him that is dear to the gods, apart from the inevitable evil caused by sin in a former life32?” “By all means.” “This, then, must be our conviction about the just man, that whether he fall into poverty or disease or any other supposed evil, for him all these things will finally prove good, both in life and in death. For by the gods assuredly that man will never be neglected who is willing and eager to be righteous, and by the practice of virtue to be likened unto god33 613b so far as that is possible for man.” “It is reasonable,” he said, “that such a one should not be neglected by his like.34” “And must we not think the opposite of the unjust man?” “Most emphatically.” “Such then are the prizes of victory which the gods bestow upon the just.” “So I think, at any rate,” he said. “But what,” said I, “does he receive from men? Is not this the case, if we are now to present the reality? Do not your smart but wicked men fare as those racers do who run well35 from the scratch but not back from the turn? They bound nimbly away at the start, but in the end 613c are laughed to scorn and run off the field uncrowned and with their ears on their shoulders.36 But the true runners when they have come to the goal receive the prizes and bear away the crown. Is not this the usual outcome for the just also, that towards the end of every action and association and of life as a whole they have honor and bear away the prizes from men?” “So it is indeed.” “Will you, then, bear with me if I say of them 613d all that you said37 of the unjust? For I am going to say that the just, when they become older, hold the offices in their own city if they choose, marry from what families they will, and give their children in marriage to what families they please, and everything that you said of the one I now repeat of the other; and in turn I will say of the unjust that the most of them, even if they escape detection in youth, at the end of their course are caught and derided, and their old age is made miserable by the contumelies of strangers and townsfolk. 613e They are lashed and suffer all things38 which you truly said are unfit for ears polite.39 Suppose yourself to have heard from me a repetition of all that they suffer. But, as I say, consider whether you will bear with me.” “Assuredly,” he said, “for what you say is just.”

“Such then while he lives are the prizes, the wages, and the gifts 614a that the just man receives from gods and men in addition to those blessings which justice herself bestowed.” “And right fair and abiding rewards,” he said. “Well, these,” I said, “are nothing in number and magnitude compared with those that await both40 after death. And we must listen to the tale of them,” said I, “in order that each may have received in full41 what is due to be said of him by our argument.” “Tell me,” he said, 614b “since there are not many things to which I would more gladly listen.” “It is not, let me tell you,” said I, “the tale42 to Alcinous told43 that I shall unfold, but the tale of a warrior bold,44 Er, the son of Armenius, by race a Pamphylian.45 He once upon a time was slain in battle, and when the corpses were taken up on the tenth day already decayed, was found intact, and having been brought home, at the moment of his funeral, on the twelfth day46 as he lay upon the pyre, revived,47 and after coming to life related what, he said, he had seen in the world beyond. He said that when his soul48 went forth from his body he journeyed with a great company 614c and that they came to a mysterious region49 where there were two openings side by side in the earth, and above and over against them in the heaven two others, and that judges were sitting50 between these, and that after every judgement they bade the righteous journey to the right and upwards through the heaven with tokens attached51 to them in front of the judgement passed upon them, and the unjust to take the road to the left52 and downward, they too wearing behind signs 614d of all that had befallen them, and that when he himself drew near they told him that he must be the messenger53 to mankind to tell them of that other world,54 and they charged him to give ear and to observe everything in the place. And so he said that here he saw, by each opening of heaven and earth, the souls departing after judgement had been passed upon them, while, by the other pair of openings, there came up from the one in the earth souls full of squalor and dust, and from the second there came down from heaven a second procession of souls clean and pure, 614e and that those which arrived from time to time appeared to have come as it were from a long journey and gladly departed to the meadow55 and encamped56 there as at a festival,57 and acquaintances greeted one another, and those which came from the earth questioned the others about conditions up yonder, and those from heaven asked how it fared with those others.”

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